twissie
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Imagination is more important than knowledge.
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Post by twissie on Jan 3, 2006 12:51:29 GMT
Wow, you could understand what was written jesse.
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masonfsw
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F-SW towel boy
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Post by masonfsw on Jan 3, 2006 13:35:07 GMT
I think the problem with the X-division style matches is they don't leave you wanting more, they show everything they have got in their arsenal 10 minutes.With the more traditional stye of wrestling, be it be Misawa or Flair its all about the story, even Mysterio and Low-ki are good at this.Old schoolers get you caught up in the match and attach you to the wrestlers, were as x-division wrestlers only seem you to get you attached to the moves. mason
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Post by primeknife1978 on Jan 3, 2006 17:39:45 GMT
How can the Japanese stuff be poo cause the six man match at uproaor got a fricking match of the year chant from all the fans
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pownall
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giggity giggity
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Post by pownall on Jan 4, 2006 1:13:43 GMT
6 man was at Showdown, was a tag at uproar, and it was AWESOME. both were the best matche son there respective cards.
Kris is entitled to his opinion though, as i said in his defence to someone on another forum: "You are welcome to your opinion, it would just suit people better id it was an INFORMED opinion"
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perfectpete
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Trish Stratus = Greatest Woman's Champion ever
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Post by perfectpete on Jan 4, 2006 17:21:43 GMT
I like all styles of Wrestling, but I enjoy the tecnical more (e.g. Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit etc). My favourite wrestler of all time is Bret Hart. If you look at him in King Of The Ring 1993, he had 3 differant matches so they wernt boring. The High flying matches are good as well. Plus I thought the NOAH match at Uprore was billiant, but everyone is entitled to his or her opinon.
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Post by Shannon Philips on Jan 6, 2006 13:04:50 GMT
Going off what Petey said, I cannot watch three XDivision matches back to back. I couldn't watch the 'Phenominlnalnasl....:S Best of AJ Styles' dvd in one sitting, whereas I watched the 'Stealing Life, Cheating Death' Eddie Guerrero. Not that I find the XDivision boring, I greatly enjoy it when I do watch it, and thats exactly it. I'm a casual viewer of TNA at best, I see the show maybe once every two months, and for me that keeps the XDivision extremely entertaining, sometimes more so than the twice a week WWE product.
Anyway, I love both the XDivision and the old-school wrestling styles (I hate American Strong Style) it's just that I personally feel that the old'school style has more longevity; hence why 'old'school is still around today. AJ may be the future of TNA wrestling, but do you really think he'll be doing Ultimate X matches in say, 15years? Course not, he'll either be dead, or wrestling old school. Buuuut, thats just my ol' opinion.
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CK Light
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mmm... fake lopsided smile...
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Post by CK Light on Jan 7, 2006 14:00:11 GMT
AJ's matches where he doesn't spend the whole time jumping around are sooo much better than his X-Division style stuff. Someone like Bryan Danielson who forces him to be (slightly) sensible really brings out the best in him.
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Rocket Moose
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He done gone and pissed him off now
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Post by Rocket Moose on Jan 7, 2006 23:06:26 GMT
I admittedly became a wrestling fan the first time I saw a Hardy Boyz match. The flips and leaps wouldn't have kept me watching for so long though. It was the characters and storylines that pulled me in and lame as it was watching Stone Cold trying to find out who ran him over I was transfixed. The more I got into wrestling the older the stuff I watched was. I'm currently collecting as much Youngblood/Steamboat tag work as I can and they split in 83. But anyway, back to the point, i'd sooner watch a Jake Roberts match with all of his 7 moves yet dripping psychology than I would a TNA match
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Post by Niq on Jan 15, 2006 14:29:31 GMT
personally, i want to be entertained. i want to see X-division highflyers making a spectical and showing the best of their skills. the majority of audiences who arent die hard wrestling fans want to see things they cant do, wish they could do, or would never dream of. i agree with the arguement that the big moves should be left towards the ending rather than topped in the first 5 minutes of the match. still i think that there should be good spots in every match rather than doing nothing until a PPV comes along. the circus doesnt tell the trapese artists to tone it down until the big show. i find it hard to sit through more and more old school matches than x-division matches mostly because in the end its been done before or its not that thrilling, and i refuse to watch ric flair anymore, just because its a famous name and the word 'legend' is always flashed at you at least ten times in the same sentence. i enjoy watching matches where you can turn it on and just watch and be entertained, without knowing the 12 month backstories and promos the soapstars of WWE shoot. and about the comment of AJ won't be doing the same stuff in 15 years, he wont be, no sportstars last that long at the top, but he will be remembered as a great, even if he wasnt in WWignore-everyone-elseE
in closing AJ Styles = ranged and talented, the new face Jack Evans = talented but needs more disiplin Ric Flair = can't be long now, can it?
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Post by primeknife1978 on Jan 15, 2006 17:37:05 GMT
6 man was at Showdown, was a tag at uproar, and it was AWESOME. both were the best matche son there respective cards. Kris is entitled to his opinion though, as i said in his defence to someone on another forum: "You are welcome to your opinion, it would just suit people better id it was an INFORMED opinion" I stand corrected Dave but as you said every body is entitled to there opinion so long as it isn't crap like saying salmon tastes crap when you havent even tried it
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CK Light
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mmm... fake lopsided smile...
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Post by CK Light on Jan 15, 2006 17:40:57 GMT
. the circus doesnt tell the trapese artists to tone it down until the big show. i find it hard to sit through more and more old school matches than x-division matches mostly because in the end its been done before or its not that thrilling, Watch one Jack Evans match. Now you never need to watch any more, because "it's been done before." The circus doesn't tell the trapese artists to tone it down, because a) they have a safety net and don't have to worry about getting injured, and b) they don't have to try and sell people a show every month, when they've been getting the same thing for free for ever monday and friday on tv.
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Luke
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The Steph and Hunter of British Wrestling
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Post by Luke on Jan 15, 2006 18:31:19 GMT
. the circus doesn't tell the trapeze artists to tone it down until the big show. i find it hard to sit through more and more old school matches than x-division matches mostly because in the end its been done before or its not that thrilling, Watch one Jack Evans match. Now you never need to watch any more, because "it's been done before." The circus doesn't tell the trapeze artists to tone it down, because a) they have a safety net and don't have to worry about getting injured, and b) they don't have to try and sell people a show every month, when they've been getting the same thing for free for ever monday and friday on tv. Yeah i agree with Kier...also the example of trapeze artists never being asked to tone down it's gymnastics stuff...well no because thats what trapeze artists do...i'm sure if they started playing cricket in the middle of their act then they would be asked to 'tone it down'. Although thats an extreme example, some of the Evans, Ruckus etc matches are little to nothing in resemblance to what wrestling is...and i'm sure you could argue that 'wrestling means something different to everyone'...well again using the cricket example...whose to say a hybrid of cricket and trapeze is a bad thing...but it's not been done cause it's...stupid. End of post
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Post by Niq on Jan 15, 2006 18:36:19 GMT
i know that was a stupid comparison but i meant how they use the gymnastics to make a daredevil show every time no matter when it is. and they may have a safety net but if they screw up and have to use it then the show is officially ruined. also i watch many jack evans matches and i find that in the big ROH matches theres almost always something new that can impress me, even if it is a dive to the outside or just a new way to land on your head
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Post by Jaqk Halewood on Jan 15, 2006 18:46:47 GMT
...i find that in the big ROH matches theres almost always something new that can impress me, even if it is a dive to the outside or just a new way to land on your head...
Says it all...
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Post by Niq on Jan 15, 2006 18:50:05 GMT
exactly is it my fault that it entertains me? no do i want to see it happen repeatedly? yes is that why i dont watch WWE at all? most likely
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